Subject	why iron calipers for the later Z32...
Posted by	Bernie (NoVA) on January 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM
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In Reply To	Re: I'm talking in regards to the size of the OEM calipers. posted by VERTTZ on January 24, 2013 at 05:58 PM
Message	in order to get more out of the brakes and *NOT* change: rotor size pad size pistons (rebuild kits) wheel size they changed the composition to iron and left all the other parts alone. The Z32 could have had 12.75" brakes in 1993... they where available in Japan on the R33 however there was no part support for it in the US and it would have forced a larger wheel... Both of which would have added to the production cost and support cost of the Z32 which was already sliding in sales and becoming too pricey to sell at a profit due to changes in exchange rates among other things. Bernie Bilski berniebilski@cox.net 1995 Nissan 300ZX TwinTurbo in Cobalt Green 1997 Nissan 240SX SE in Ultra Red ZCCNV #390 ~ ECZA #368
Follow Ups	Stock aluminum calipers vs iron calipers and proj mu pis upg - VERTTZ 15:12:02 01/23/13 project mu piston upgrade for the stock 300zx calipers - VERTTZ 15:13:40 01/23/13 $500 just for new caliper pistons?! - ZXoltan 16:03:50 01/23/13 $500 just for new caliper pistons?! - Not so much.. - VERTTZ 16:39:21 01/23/13 From the project mu website... - VERTTZ 16:42:23 01/23/13 I know you didnt want any vague answers/questions but... - Red Hawk (CO) 16:30:01 01/23/13 Re: I know you didnt want any vague answers/questions but... - VERTTZ 16:35:34 01/23/13 it'd make more sense to upgrade to any of the brembo - Adam (NoVA) 16:56:08 01/23/13 Re: it'd make more sense to upgrade to any of the brembo - VERTTZ 17:13:11 01/23/13 well... - Adam (NoVA) 18:03:57 01/23/13 Agreed (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 00:26:28 01/24/13 Indeed. (n/m) - Ghoztt 06:58:16 01/24/13 I concur. (n/m) - Mike TDK (NoVA) 08:35:51 01/24/13 precisely (n/m) - TriniTT 10:05:24 01/24/13 iron calipers do not heatsoak as quickly and for as long - LJZTT 17:10:14 01/23/13 good info - VERTTZ 17:18:31 01/23/13 Re: iron calipers do not heatsoak as quickly and for as long - VERTTZ 17:54:11 01/23/13 Thats because aluminum does cool faster than iron... - AHos(Chicago) 17:56:20 01/23/13 240sx guys also use dildos for shift knobs. (n/m) - TriniTT 15:13:11 01/24/13 Thats a pretty wild claim about iron vs alum. Any citation? - Antihero 13:48:59 01/24/13 From personal experience, on our cars the iron calipers - TriniTT 15:11:19 01/24/13 I agree with your observation, but not sure about conclusion - Antihero 16:30:16 01/24/13 Re: I agree with your observation, but not sure about conclusion - VERTTZ 18:07:13 01/24/13 Do yo realize that the z32 front aluminum calipers are not - TriniTT 21:32:25 01/24/13 R32 GTR rotor details... - Bernie (NoVA) 00:34:01 01/25/13 no physics charts - LJZTT 00:32:53 01/25/13 I don't know if its true... - Antihero 10:28:51 01/25/13 well obviously the heat is generated where the pad contacts - LJZTT 14:04:07 01/25/13 in a nuthsell - Ghoztt 18:54:08 01/23/13 *Nutshell. I swear I'm not drinking. (n/m) - Ghoztt 19:50:32 01/23/13 i can fix that (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 19:52:22 01/23/13 I'm sure you could. (n/m) - Ghoztt 21:10:46 01/23/13 Re: in a nuthsell - VERTTZ 01:57:28 01/24/13 Technically speaking, the rotors were to small for the heavy - Ghoztt 06:48:12 01/24/13 Rotor warp-age is a direct result from excessive heat - Ghoztt 06:52:08 01/24/13 So if you were to replace the rotors with 350z track - Jayru 09:05:30 01/24/13 I think this thread should VTF - VERTTZ 10:05:17 01/24/13 You'll have more $ than Adam's setup and less performance. (n/m) - TriniTT 10:14:44 01/24/13 Re: You'll have more $ than Adam's setup and less performance. - VERTTZ 10:22:54 01/24/13 Please stop mentioning the Akebonos, they are not - TriniTT 10:38:26 01/24/13 agreed -continued mention of the akebono kit in this context - Adam (NoVA) 12:38:47 01/24/13 I had R34 GTR brembos on my Z which I tracked regularly and - Ghoztt 10:58:51 01/24/13 not to totally confuse the conversation, but I have BremboGT - Adam (NoVA) 12:29:26 01/24/13 Yeah, I realized my error, you have the Brembo GT kit, - TriniTT 12:37:44 01/24/13 Well, you would increase your braking performance, however.. - Ghoztt 10:38:13 01/24/13 Re: Well, you would increase your braking performance, however.. - VERTTZ 13:22:39 01/24/13 All the other calipers you mention are LARGER then stock. - Bernie (NoVA) 13:27:11 01/24/13 Re: All the other calipers you mention are LARGER then stock. - VERTTZ 13:41:12 01/24/13 There's a reason you have a quote in my sig. - TriniTT 14:03:04 01/24/13 Re: There's a reason you have a quote in my sig. - VERTTZ 17:55:17 01/24/13 Lol dude, you honestly can't tell me why your quote is in my - TriniTT 19:21:17 01/24/13 Hi Nick! Please think of me before posting from now on! - Theory Of Operation 20:56:49 01/24/13 I'm talking in regards to the size of the OEM calipers. - Ghoztt 14:07:01 01/24/13 Re: I'm talking in regards to the size of the OEM calipers. - VERTTZ 17:58:52 01/24/13 Yep, you're on the right track now. - Ghoztt 21:10:24 01/24/13 why iron calipers for the later Z32... - Bernie (NoVA) 00:39:44 01/25/13 One thing that hasn't yet been mentioned - TriniTT 10:01:27 01/24/13 Re: One thing that hasn't yet been mentioned - VERTTZ 10:15:53 01/24/13 350z Brembos require no brackets. - TriniTT 10:22:48 01/24/13 Re: 350z Brembos require no brackets. - VERTTZ 10:27:43 01/24/13 No, they utilize the 350z Brembo rotors. - TriniTT 10:34:16 01/24/13 Re: 350z Brembos require no brackets. - VERTTZ 10:29:24 01/24/13 You'er overlooking rotoro weight - a 2 piece 13" rotor is - Bernie (NoVA) 13:23:27 01/24/13 z1 offers a 2 piece 13" rotor for the stock calipers - VERTTZ 13:44:58 01/24/13 He's not saying that at all but believe what you want. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 14:20:22 01/24/13 I was just being sarcastic. haha. (n/m) - VERTTZ 18:09:14 01/24/13 been my experience as well (n/m) - LJZTT 08:05:34 01/25/13 Again I am not ruling out the brembos totally - VERTTZ 18:16:56 01/24/13 The difference is considerable. Take one ride in a Z with - Ghoztt 21:31:00 01/24/13 The R32 kit and variations on it are pointless in 2013. - Bernie (NoVA) 00:57:45 01/25/13 The size IS vastly different. (n/m) - Antihero 10:29:17 01/25/13
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